December 14th, 2007 By Justin Williams
Get Your Teeth Whitened at Eastland Mall
If you’ve been to Eastland Mall lately, you’ve no doubt noticed the teeth whitening guy set up in front of Build-A-Bear. I’ve seen Britesmile locations in malls before, but never have I seen a makeshift dental center be setup as a kiosk.
I’m amazed this has even been set up in the first place, but I am even more amazed that I saw people actually having their teeth whitened in the mall. It’s such a weird form of exhibitionism.
Anyone know anything more about it?
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Jenna
December 14, 2007 @ 09:56PM
my father is a dentist and we just view all this as fake, no self respecting dentist would involve himself in something like this. Insanity!
cody
December 15, 2007 @ 08:57AM
the guy that works there is a joke i have a flyer that they passed out its 119.99 as an introductory offer regular price of 149.99 2-5 shades whiter in minutes and i have never seen them sanitize or clean anything!
Dawn
December 17, 2007 @ 07:03PM
Hey I’am a dental assistant looking to start a whitening booth , and let me tell you people will do it they don’t want to pay BIG bucks at a dental office, they want to ONLY get there teeth whitened not Xrays and all ect……
cody
December 18, 2007 @ 08:57AM
well the guy that works in the mall is a creep.
barky
December 18, 2007 @ 01:19PM
yuck
willy
December 28, 2007 @ 05:57PM
http://www.abc25.com/dsp_story.cfm?storyid=4434
here is the link to the story on the news
Deb
February 19, 2008 @ 10:35AM
I have seen this sort of thing at our local fair grounds and just yesterday I saw that there is a kiosk at our local mall. It costs 100.00 at the mall for the procedure.. It is a self loaded tray and experience.. No one but you touches your mouth. I would do it if I had an extra 100 bucks and saw some good results. I think they should offer an even lower cost trial on it though and they would get a lot more people doing this. I for one think it is a good idea. Teeth Whitening has been something consumers have been doing themselves for years now but we want better results without having to pay the outrageous prices of a Dentist office procedure where we are paying for a dental degree.
I will pay dentist prices when I need my teeth worked on. This is an alternative to having to see the Dentist and go through all that drama for a simple, harmless procedure we can do ourselves.
Nachonormal Teeth whitening
March 03, 2008 @ 09:35AM
Hey there:
I don’t know who is going to read this… but this is a niche right now. As a business person, you want to get in on somethign like this. Let me tell you I get so giggly when I read people talking out of their butts… my dad is a dentist and he says this and that… blah blah. It’s a business, my friend. If you can operate within the confines of the law, they GO FOR IT. You know the guys that make stents? People dying all over the palce coz of the litigation coz one guy made it the other guy says it’s his technology, etc, etc, people die. So what, show me the money. Same thing. how about… geeeee how about this one: in the OR there are now nurse anesthetists who knock you out! Did you know that? gee, my dad is a doctor and he says onlY MDs should knock you out! It’s money. They cost less and so the insurance guys want to use them coz MD anesthesiologists bring home 400K. Too much = alternatives will be sought. Same for radiology guys. They get paid mad dough. I want to find out if this is OK in PA and NY so I can launch like 10 of these kiosks. I would LOVE to get some of my MD friends to open up a hair transplantation practice. I’ll fund them. And/or boob/belly jobs and botox the whole nine yards. This is a business - and if you think otherwise, you’re just not seeing the whole thing. Whether it appeals to your sense of ethics or what is proper is a product of what you have been accustomed to seeing! If that’s the case, then the first time you saw a black person on the bus you would say, “wait, no my dad says these people should not be on the bus… they travel by donkeys…” Haha, okay so that’s a stretch. Do you know anything about hydrogen peroxide and what the FDA decides - DECIDES - is prescription strength? If it’s NOT prescription strength you do not get the SAME results as in a dentist’s office but that means you can buy it at WalMart and do it yourself! But you also need a nice light that shoots heat and the right wavelength. The device that these guys use is beneath what the FDA classifies as a medical device requirind dentist supervision. it’s like me walking you into WalMart and saying, “yeah buy that one - yup 20% hydrogen peroxide.” “Oh snap, there’s a chair. Sit.” “Excellent, now take this here and put it in yoru mouth… don’t forget the light and the goggles!” “Excellent - be back in 15 minutes.” It’s like DVR/TIVO - no more tapes, just more convenience so people can get what they want for less than investing in tapes, learning how to program, and buying a recorder - this in business equals MONEY. Power to the tooth whitening entrepreneurs. I want in! I think they must keep their insurance tight, operate under a LLC by GOD, and keep their stuff well-researched for example avoid UV lights which can damage and HAVE damaged gums. Get informed before commenting about your daddy and his dental views…
Justin Williams
March 03, 2008 @ 12:57PM
I have a hard time trying to justify your argument because of your pathetic grasp on the English language.
Jenna
March 03, 2008 @ 02:06PM
I have a hard time justifying it because I feel like it made no sense. It was poorly written, and so much so that I couldn’t understand what was trying to be said. But what I did grasp were completely different things than the tooth whitening business in the mall.
Sweetheart, my dad is a great dentist. He hesitates to even use those because they can cause such damage to teeth and gums. Not just the super powerful ones, but any of them. He only uses whitening trays because of this. When his patients ask why he doesn’t use “the easy, quick whitening machine,” he explains to them that it is very unhealthy for gums and teeth, and on certain people can cause a lot of pain.
And in my own opinion, no self respecting dentist would be in the mall doing this, they’d rather be building a practice and practicing good (and respected) medicine. Also, while there is an older man there sometimes, the age of the other 2 people often there are no where near old enough to have the dental degree required to operate this machine.
If people choose to do this, they are taking the health of their teeth into their own hands, and just cross your fingers nothing happens.
Nachonormal Teeth whitening
March 03, 2008 @ 05:32PM
Once again, it’s not abot daddy…
Hey, my grasp of english is not too bad actually :) in the stratosphere compared to you, probably, unless… you trained at a place like harvard, perhaps? Do you think I actually proof what I write and do a grammar check? It’s a perfunctory attempt - and futile because folks who post on boards (see studentdoctor.net) are often often idiots and mis-informed! Just running the mouth… Haha, silly kids. I’m at marco-lamont@stanfordalumni.org - if you want to have a dialogue please drop me a line. I was an English major. Ooooh, ahhhh. It has absolutely nothing to do with daddy and his business; you make it sound like it’s about that. Daddy is not involved. Him being a great dentist is NOT at issue. It’s .. besides the point. A simple concept that you mis-grasp. You’re cute though! haha Anyway, it has nothing to do with having a dental degree because according to the FDA, the ADA, and the state regulatory agencies (except in Kentucky and NC, I believe) it’s okay to do this! And it CAN appear to your sense of what is appropriate if you dig a little deeper. But you probably did not. For example, did you figure out that it has everythign to do with the outcomes and the studies that have been done to support the product? For instance, lower percentages of hydrogen peroxide can be bought in a store! As in OTC. Now if you use this in a shop, mall, garage, etc, it’s STILL OK. It’s as if you bought it yourself and are doing it, but in fact, the investors are just appealing to people being lazy and looking for a shortcut. Like the remote control when it first came out.
I actually agree - a dentist would look a little goofy and maybe desperate if he were embedded in any mall, huh? I agree, but I don’t think I made that point! Stick to the issue! What’s the issue? I think it was that you guys thought this was ‘bad’ or ‘improper’ or ‘illegal’ or something BAD. THAT was the issue. You know, if I saw someone doing SAFE derm or even radiology, I wouldn’t sweat it. As long as they’re flying beneath the regulatory radar, it’s OK. In fact, you CAN walk into a radoilogy group and have your chest film read, you know. Or Quest Diagnostics: they now do blood testing if you want it! No need for a doc to order it! Want your cholesterol? No problem. Will that be cash or charge? Feel me now?
Justin - whoah, my bad - you’re trying to be the big di*k alpha-male tough guy on the board, huh? Does it make you feel all tough and manly to insult a stranger who you know nothing about? Maybe your DHT s high and you’re balding, too? Where were you educated? Post your ivy-caliber email address and show us your true girth. Otherwise, you lose man. Sorry. Maybe we can try a video game or something next time.
Keep it un-personal and objective, I guess. It’s funny how these boards always turn into attacks on one another. But I had to throw in my thirteen cents on the ignorance that I sniffed out. A nice enclave under the veil of yet-another-bulletin-board. OK, this was a less desultory attempt at a response…! Holler now. I won’t be shy and I’ll try to watch the grammar and maybe spell check… haha, not.
Nachonormal Teeth whitening
March 03, 2008 @ 05:46PM
let me add a few more thoughts… (got this off of google and a published study… I’ll admit i can’t find clinical trials and contolled studies to back this up… but this makes a point):
1) crest gets 1 - 2 shades.
2) walmart bleaching gels can get 2 shades
3) the zoom procedure which is allowed (I think) to be done by only dentists achieves up to 6 - 8 shades.
4) bleachbright.com and myismile.com (the guys selling the licenses to do ths at a mall) can get up to 4 shades better.
So, seeing this should begin to demonstrate that what these guys LOOKS like what you might get in a dental office, but the sheer truth is that it’s not. The light is NOT UV and the peroxide is OVER THE COUNTER.
Again, it’s like buying ionic white’s product at a walmart and having someone ‘wallk’ you through it without touching you. That’s it! Don’t assume that this is the same product with the heat and energy levels that have caused the sporadic and uncommon reactions in some patients to the waves being administered. Anyway, I’ll read whatever else you post, but not too interested in commenting anymore, lest… this deteriorates into an after-school brawl :)
ch
March 03, 2008 @ 07:02PM
Ooh, I’m cool. I went to Stanford. marco-lamont@WhatAWasteOfMoney.org, Your comments are pretentious and uninspiring.
You said, “folks who post on boards (see studentdoctor.net) are often often idiots and mis-informed! Just running the mouth…” I will agree with you there—if we’re talking about your comments.
Good God…all I hear is “blah blah blah…Standford blah…I’m an English major who can’t spell…blah blah blah. Holler…blah blah blah. Penis size is directly related to how much money you spent on school…blah blah blah…Black people should travel by donkeys?!?!?!”
If you’re trying to get Jenna’s attention because you think she’s cute…
deconstructing her comments and challenging Justin to a girth contest is not the way to do it. Obviously Ivy League does not equal classiness and it definitely does not equal common sense…and Marco, you need to get some cooler moves…I know, it’s hard for an Ivy Leaguer to do.
barky
March 03, 2008 @ 07:31PM
Wow. Some people find me pretentious, but Barky thinks this Marco guy is way beyond the pale. There may be some new wonder drugs to help him though. Barky thinks he should visit http://www.crazymeds.us
Nachonormal Teeth whitening
March 03, 2008 @ 10:11PM
Well, I’m sorry, but no one is talking about facts, clinicals, or data - cold, hard, date. OMG, do you really care if someone makes a type on a forum?? Really? I mean - wow - you are so insecure that you can’t knock a brother because of his rationale, assumptions, or fact-finding, but you go ahead and try to peg him on a typo?? Lordy, you’re like a cardiologist I once knew who was so insecure over the interventional radiology guys (because they do stenting almost more frequently than cards docs now!) that he used to always criticze them on silly things like flawed presentations and cars they drove… Get a life! Try real hard. I can’t be happier criticizing those who take the time to actually criticize others for -typos-! Silly boy! BOY. And yes, I did not initiate this silliness, as usual, but I’m more than happy to retaliate and make you feel about an inch long when the need arises - and the need arose yet again. And yes the picture of the girl is cute, but I don’t care - I’m not trying to bed this woman; that is not the point, silly boy, I am a man and I acknowledge beauty in a woman even if it’s a 20 x 20 pixel pic of a 20 year old girl! That’s it. A man. I am not afraid and post from under a veil - I will tell you who I am, what my credentials are, and show you I know what I’m talking about or will take a seat when a topic goes beyond my breadth. Period. You guys (not all of you, of course) just talk about crapola and it’s frustrating to see this ALL OVER THE PLACE. I’m googling and am trying to find some interesting stuff because I’m interested in investing in this and I find this silly almost layman completely uninformed crap ona random board that sadly ranks high with google. You reach deep into your rectum and pull out something stinky and stick it into my eyes via these silly uninformative posts. I’ve already shown you I have the superior education; what more can I do? Thus, you’re wrong, undereducated, insecure, etc, etc. Are you even an investor? Why post on this topic? As usual, between men, it comes down the the penis. Its always about the penis. Do I have to break that down for you, too? Think ancestors… apes… long dongs man and the way he rules the pack… If you want to really take a man down, attack his manliness; or lack thereof, not his perfunctory post which obviously wil result in typos.. Done, teeny-man. Where’s your email address? I didn’t even post my undergrad email address… I didn’t want to drop the h bomb. Oops, I did it again. I’m a player, you get played. Are your ears red? I just played you.
ch
March 03, 2008 @ 10:41PM
I’m a female Ph D candidate. Definitely not a boy…and definitely not insecure. I am, however, trying to give you advice to help you in the “ladies” department since as an Ivy Leaguer you’re going to need all the help you can get in that area. Drop the penis thing…it doesn’t impress girls at all. Usually if guys actually have a big penis they don’t need to talk about it.
And the typos aren’t very attractive, either.
I just love how this conversation went from teeth whitening to penis envy. Now this is entertainment. How can one not enjoy this?
Jenna
March 03, 2008 @ 11:59PM
23, not 20.
@ch: don’t you find it humorous, I know I do, is that all this fellow can fall back on is a Stanford education? Sure, Stanford is a great school, but so is IU, PU, UK, UE, UT, blah blah blah blah. I may not be a Stanford grade, and maybe no one else on this site is, but I know I’m educated just as well. IU may not have the namesake of Stanford, but the academics of IU are stellar. Also, did you find it funny that he said he refused to comment anymore, but couldn’t help but come back and attack? All I hear from this guy is rambling about Stanford and his penis size. Oh yeah, and my father. He seems to have become obsessed with my father. Woe is me. You know this Ivy League, Stanford grad is just sitting there, twiddling thumbs, contemplating his next plan of attack? Lacking any social skills at all. Dude, grow up, when people leave comments, it’s often an opinion (such as the overwhelming opinion about you). Get a life.
(P.S. Judging from all the typos and slang, I believe either a. this guy isn’t an english major, or b. stanford must have a shit English department. Every English major I have ever met is a stickler when they write—assignments, letters, text, IMs, or comments)
If you don’t like the site or the comments, please, just pass by them, don’t live your life by them.
John
March 06, 2008 @ 11:07AM
Jenna,
Your daddy the dentist is just upset because the dental teeth whitening monopoly is starting to erode.
“no self respecting dentist would involve himself in something like this” Laughable!
What makes you and your daddy so much better than everyone else?
Jenna
March 06, 2008 @ 03:46PM
We aren’t better than you or anyone else, but a dentist interested in dentistry and who is good at it will actually be in office (not mall) building a strong practice. I find people whitening their teeth in the mall and the people who do it to be laughable actually.
John
March 06, 2008 @ 05:04PM
The only thing laughable here is the pompous, pretentious conceit held by you and your daddy.
Jenna
March 06, 2008 @ 10:07PM
okay, if you say so, but please stop coming here to argue, that is not what the comments are for
Mike DDS
March 26, 2008 @ 04:59PM
Let the buyer beware indeed. If I, As a dentist, were to set up a mall bleaching center like this, I would have my license pulled. The proper procedure is to examine the patient for decay and gum disease and honestly tell tjhe patient if they are a good candiate for bleaching, many are not. Also, if there is a layer of plaque and tartar on the teeth,the bleaching is not going to work very well. Does anyone examine the patient for this. ALSO, many scientific studies studies show that the light has absolutely no effect on he whitening…it’s a gimmick. Of course the average Sam’s club shmuck wouldn’t know that,.
What irks me that I can’t set up a mall scam center like this because I am a licenced dentist, but anyone else can. Grrrrrrrr.
Mike, DDS
Jim Valentine
April 02, 2008 @ 09:13AM
To all on this amazing message board:
Unfortunately, the only person defending the segment in which my company operates is the local Bleachbright distributor. I can assure you he is not representing my industry well with his poorly stated arguments. Please allow me to address the concerns (especially Mike the dentist) with some basic facts about teeth whitening:
-NO teeth whitening product is FDA approved (some are ADA approved but none by the FDA)
-The FDA ruled in 1991 that peroxide is not classified as a drug when used for teeth bleaching, therefore it is deemed over the counter (definition: not prescribed by a doctor)
-Teeth whitening is a cosmetic procedure. It does not cure or treat a condition of the oral cavity. People choose to get their teeth whitened to beautify, not to treat a condition.
-Millions of people make the choice to use teeth whitening products everyday without the advice of their dentist. Why? Because they don’t have to. It’s called the LAW.
-My company also has almost 60 locations (we actually operate inside of Sam’s Clubs) and has strict controls regarding sanitation, expectation management, etc. Bottom line: we operate a tight ship.
-We deal with irate dentists on a daily basis who don’t know the laws, don’t know the facts, and are only out to discredit our business because of one of two reasons: 1) they are upset over the loss of business or 2) for some reason they feel going to dental school and getting a license gives them eminent domain over everyone’s mouth. Our customers choose in a free market system to use our product and over 95% customers are happy with the results. Can you say that about your customer base Mike??
-The percentage of irate dentists that we meet? 10%. Most realize what we are doing is a great idea.
-The efficacy of the blue LED is questioned “by some studies” but can you cite the source? We do know Blue LED light in the 480 nm spectrum range aggravates the oxidation process of peroxide. It accelerates the process. There are studies out there that claim mouthwash increases the risk of oral cancer too, oh, but I can’t name the source…
-Our clients see the results for themselves. If they aren’t happy we will gladly refund their money. Do you offer that guarantee Mike??
There are good companies (WhiteSmileUSA) in this new segment and even though I don’t have locations in Indiana, I just had to respond to the misstatements on this board.
Thanks for reading,
Jim Valentine
Founder, WhiteSmileUSA
Mark
April 16, 2008 @ 12:54PM
Wow,
As a dentist I am stunned by the audaciousness of this. Jim Valentine runs a tight ship huh? Exactly what training do any of the ‘technicians’ have? At sam’s club? Really? “Here, stick 20% peroxide on your teeth and then shine this hot lamp on them and hope you don’t kill your roots”. Good plan.
Last time I checked having white teeth is not indicator of oral heath in anyway. But, I’ll be happy to do a full mouth reconstruction on yo’ piggly wiggly white grill after you screw them up.
M
Jim Valentine
April 16, 2008 @ 01:26PM
Mark the Dentist: I’m stunned by the audaciousness of your accusations. You don’t know my company, my training programs, or my % of peroxide. It’s not near 20% and it’s not a “heat lamp”. We’ve done over 20,000 whitenings in my company’s history and have no instances of anything close to what you accuse. Killing roots? Come on Mark, take your scare tactics elsewhere.
Your false accusations are as laughable as me stating that “all dentists sexually assault their clients while under the gas”.
Attention: If any of Mark’s clients have woken up with their blouses unbuttoned call WhiteSmileUSA, we’ll give you a free whitening!
ch
April 16, 2008 @ 05:22PM
This is beyond humorous. Crest White Strips, baby.
Jacob
April 20, 2008 @ 09:09PM
I got my teeth whitened at Sam’s and LOVED it!!! I recommend this to anyone that wants whiter teeth without the harsh side effects that are common from DDS/dental procedures like Zoom.
Thanks WhiteSmile…Thanks Jim Valentine!!!
To Mark and Mike….Cry me a River!
Allen
May 13, 2008 @ 11:13PM
It is amazing the way dentists try to fight this because they are afraid it is going to cut in to there business. I wish they got this worked up over ciggarettes and smokeless tobacco, Oh wait they make money on that so I guess they will leave that alone.
BK Hackett
May 18, 2008 @ 11:10AM
Anyone know if it helps? It’s equivalent to __ useage of strips?
JAclyn
July 28, 2008 @ 04:02PM
THe only people whi dis this seem to be dentist, I was a dental assistant for years, and yes we bleached teeth as well. Whether u go to the dentist or an unlicensed person you are getting the same results as well as the risk. Going to the dentist you will verey well experience tooth sensitivity as well as gums being burnt occasionally , Its bleach that is what happens. The products in the mall have the same effectivness, They only thing is the mouth piece is not cut to fit your teeth, or the bleach isnt painted on which could result in more risk of gum sensitivity which will go away over time. Dentist are rip offs , I worked for one I know. I would get it done at one of those place. As for being sanitary everything is disposable anyway, and you are placing the piece in your own mouth, Most of them will have gloves and everything is pre packeaged. Its bleaching people! Most will love the results but u will get some babies out there that cry over sensitivity ect and are sue happy or dentist afraid that profit is being taken out of their pocket. I say let the people at the mall bleach , there are consent forms that explain the risk as no matter where you go to get the procedure done. These people need to eat and feed familys too and are not harming anyone.Obviously people who have rooted decayed teeth or gum disease will have more sensitivity or problems and should no that.
gmwong
July 29, 2008 @ 11:31AM
Im going to stick with the dentist on this one. My teeth quite attached to me and I would prefer the person working on them have more than a High school diploma. AND I dont want people watching me blasted. What if someone walked by that I knew? Awkward. My dentist gives me free stuff too.
Eat that Sams Club whiteners.
Jenna
July 29, 2008 @ 01:03PM
gmwong—ever change dentists, I have a great one to recommend you to!
CALI
July 30, 2008 @ 01:54PM
In summary, yes teeth whitening can now be done at the malls and having seen people actually do it there means it is an accepted practice.
No offense to Jenna or the dentists, I really do think it is all about the effect of these kiosks on the bottom line of your businesses.
There is no need for them to be ragulated by FDA or any state agency because they are not performing any services or dental services for that matter and not administaering any regulated drugs. What they are is merely retail establishments just like your neighborhood Walgreens or Wal-mart selling their branded “over-the-counter” teeth whitening formula but as an incentive gives their cutomers (not patients) an opportunity to use their FDA approved LED accelerator light.
I for one will also not seat there and get mine done, only because most of the locations I’ve been are not set to provide some kind of privacy for there customers when they are seating there. But what I will do is open an state-of-the-art kiosk that will provide a sense of privacy and comfort for my customers. I’m an accountant and I’ve done all the feasibility study on it and they are looking good.
barky
July 30, 2008 @ 05:31PM
I guess accountants do not need to spell or know grammar.
gmwong
July 30, 2008 @ 07:11PM
No need to be ragulated?
I agree. ragulated isn’t a word. (it sounds like a wonderful sauce, however)
However there is plenty of reasons to be Regulated.
I would prefer to know that the equipment that is going to be inserted into my body has not only been disinfected, but is not some Chinese knockoff. The people in the mall had no information on their “FDA” regulated laser dooflicker.
I realize the FDA isn’t the greatest at protecting us consumers (remember phenphen?) However, they do a decent job at what they got.
Lastly, I have this fleeting suspicion that a good dentist doesn’t need to worry about the loss of teeth whitening kiosks. I’m sure they make their bank on pulling, REAL teeth cleaning (no lasers, fluoride and the scraper-o-doom) crowns, ect. If they open a “Cavity-r-Us” in the mall though…
I appreciate your entrepreneur-ish spirit, however!
I’m getting new dental insurance and don’t think I’ll be able to go to my old dentist, so hook me up.
CALI
July 31, 2008 @ 10:33AM
Oh I am sorry, I thought this was an intelligent meeting of minds among those who have something to say about teeth whitening and so I have expressed my opinion and thoughts on the matter. I did not know this was about how good of a speller or writer you are, my bad. Barky you would be a good copyrighter ‘coz you seem to notice everybody’s misspelling and grammar but does not seem to be able to contribute anything about the topic.
An excerpt from the Guidance for Industry and FDA Staff: Dental Curing Lights – Pre-market Notification [510(k)] Document Issued on: March 27, 2006: “The scope of this guidance does not include heat or light sources intended exclusively for tooth bleaching procedures. These are classified under 21 CFR 872.6475, Heat Source for Bleaching Teeth, product code EEG. These devices are exempt from the pre-market notification procedures in subpart E of part 807 of this chapter, subject to the limitations of §872.9.”
Per Ohio Dental Board, “Simply providing a consumer with the material to make a tray and demonstrating to them how to apply the materials to their teeth for leaching purposes is not a practice of dentistry, unless and until someone other than the consumer places their hands in the consumer’s mouth and or position the activation light or similar device on their behalf.”
TRAINING: The operators are trained NOT to put anything inside the customer’s mouth or even touch the customer’s mouth. They are also trained to ONLY demonstrate how the customers should position the lamp towards their teeth BUT NOT TO position it for them.
gmwong
July 31, 2008 @ 07:16PM
Thats even worse! I don’t want to have to rely on my own abilities to whiten my teeth. I could buy the crest system for that! Why buy a service when you basically have to do it yourself. If I’m going to get my teeth serviced, I want a full service job.
Jenna
July 31, 2008 @ 09:55PM
amen.
gmwong, shoot me a line if you really want the recommendation
Erick
August 03, 2008 @ 07:38AM
God people! If you cant see just the sheer revolutionary power of trends like these your as blind as the conservatives who first said woman could not wear pants, then they didnt like girls in skirts! Chick with the dentist dady, your dad is just looking out for his own self intrest, realy he needs to wake up and realize times are changing. Shit next thing you know being treated for cancer will be as simple as getting into a dam photo booth.Then the boards will be filled with raving mad radiologist’s offsprings. The world we live in is a world of change, a world of automitation, and if you cant change and adapt you will be left behind crying about teeth whitening kiosks!I for one am 100% with everything Marco has said and he sounds to me like he is the only one here with any rational reasoning.
Jenna
August 03, 2008 @ 10:19PM
my dad isn’t looking out for his self-interest, but instead that of his patients, anyone who has ever met my dad would know that, anyway, out of everything he does at work, teeth-whitening is probably like 5% of it…so really, its not hurting him at all, he had his patients best-interest in mind, but wouldn’t be offended if they choose the mall, that’s their decision.
However, did you really just compare TEETH WHITENING to WOMEN’S SUFFRAGE!? ~blank stare~
That’s like me comparing a black president to wheeled shoes……
Really man? Really?
CALI
August 04, 2008 @ 11:53AM
Again, it is a simple matter of CHOICE. This is a free country, you are given an option it is up to you to make the choice. Go to a dentist for gingivitis or root canal and everything else that you do not have an option to do any other way but through them. But since NOW there is an option to go have your teeth whiten by yourself using over-the-counter product from Wal-mart OR through the kiosk at the mall using their light accelerator OR through a dentist utilizing the help of the dental assistants, it is up to us to make an INFORMED decision how to go about doing it. And teeth whitening is not fake, they are not dentist but they are not fake and they do not pose as a dentist either.
Jenna read more on this teeth whitening kiosks online and you will learn that these kiosks are not operated by dentists, they are sales associates selling the teeth whitening kit. And they even recommend seeing a dentist for things other than teeth whitening (for obvious reasons).
kathy
August 24, 2008 @ 01:56PM
Sorry, I am a dental assistant who can actually spell correctly, and has a certain degree of knowledge and familiarity with this topic. YES, legally you can do this at a kiosk. However, I would NEVER want to. Bleach lights are placed a certain way for a reason. If you are not trained to place it correctly and to properly cover the pink tissue at which it is aimed & know why you’re doing it that way, then you shouldn’t be doing it. I recently had a patient whose daughter had a whitening procedure done at Sam’s and I said that perhaps that wasn’t a good idea, because if not done properly it can cause gum tissue damage and/or pain. She said that, indeed, her daughter had experienced a good deal of pain. Dentists are NOT afraid of these kiosks because of losing income to them. Any professional is afraid of deregulation of certain procedures when it can cause something bad to happen to a patient. By the way, I will NEVER step into a “booth” for cancer treatment if the need ever arises. I will seek out the BEST qualified and trained professionals with the best track record that I can find! My mother is a 17 year pancreatic cancer survivor because I/she did just that!! To suggest such a thing shows what an idiot you are. Only when you are faced with such a decision will you understand. If and when I EVER need any medical and or dental work performed, I will go to the best person that I can find. My health means EVERYTHING to me! Sam’Club-NEVER!!!!!!! I’ll buy groceries in bulk, toiletries, certain furniture items, etc., etc., etc. But, I’ll leave my health concerns to the M.D.s and D.D.S.’ Thankyou very much!
Jim Valentine
August 24, 2008 @ 04:08PM
Dear Kathy,
I would like to address your last post.
First, you make an incorrect blanket statement regarding the light. The bleaching light used by many dentist are actually UV light wavelengths. Blue LED lights used by my company cannot burn tissue. In the cases where side effects are experienced it is due to the peroxide, not the light. Please get your facts straight.
Also, comparing cancer visits to teeth whitening is a bit of a stretch.
Best regards,
Jim Valentine
Jenna
August 24, 2008 @ 05:15PM
Jim, I think Kathy makes a lot of good points, but she was not the one comparing cancer to teeth whitening, erick did, she was rebutting that statement and the “logic” of it also, like you did, saying it was in no way comparable.
victor
October 03, 2008 @ 10:53AM
I actually agree with nachonormal teeth whitening, and disagree with jenna. There are different laws in different states and teeth whitening is perfectly legal. The amount of peroxide they use is at a legal use depending on the state it can differ from 35% to 44% carmabide peroxide, which can actually be bought over the counter. The law states you can not put your hand in someone’s mouth unless you are a dentist. This service is self-administered. It is just offering the number one cosmetic procedure at a lower price because the demand has grown. The ones who seem to argue on the opposite side of this business are usually dentists, or dental assistants. Everything is legal, it is a smart business to jump on, and growing rapidly. Also, dentists are able to use higher amounts of peroxide because they are licensed. Teeth whitening at malls or salons are simply providing a self’administered service with products that can be purchased over the counter.